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TFER2 Task Force
March 15, 1999

Present: Bob Alan (HOTS), Rebecca Doherty (CDL), Pat French (UCD),  
Crystal Graham (UCSD), Lynne Hayman (UCSB), Carol Hixson (UCLA) 



  
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 
The minutes of February 25 were approved, and the minutes of March 8 were approved pending a response from Hayman. 


2. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND UPDATES  
French reported that we have not received a response from all campuses regarding the preliminary report.  Hixson and Hayman reported that additional responses would be coming from UCLA and UCSB by the end of this week.  Hayman will contact UCI and Alan will contact UCR and UCSF for feedback. 

Graham reported that she spoke to Eric Jul, and he recommended using the OCLC 
number in the construction of PURLS to identify the bib record which contains the PURL. 


3. MELVYL PROCESSING 

Doherty led the group through a number of technical points needing resolution: 

A. 856 $3 display. 

Based on the information in the 3/8/99 minutes, Doherty has asked the MELWEB 
programmer to begin displaying the subfield $3 with the label 'Materials 
included:' and to change subfield order to: 

$3, $z, $u - followed by the other subfields in their current display order. 

Doherty will forward an estimated implementation date when it is known. 
 

B. 856 display format. 

One of the other unresolved 856 issues is how the 856 should display in terms of 
campus labels, 'electronic location' labels, placement of data, etc.  The format 
presented in various examples to date represent possibilities, but not final 
decisions.  Doherty  spoke with Laine Farley on 3/4/99 to see if she had been able 
to pursue this matter with the campuses. Unfortunately, with her very busy 
schedule, she had not been able to but planned to do so in the near future.  In 
the meantime Doherty recommended that the TFER2 group think about their 
preferences and she will create further examples. 

The group expressed interest in getting feedback from Laine Farley about display 
options that CDL is working on.  Doherty agreed to create a display section for 
the report which reflects the direction on  CDL thinking.  Graham offered to send 
Doherty OCLC records as samples to work from. 
  

C. CCA/CDL record as the base record. 
In an earlier meeting, the idea of requesting that the CCA record be the Base 
record for public display in Melvyl was raised.  Doherty reported that it should 
be technically possible to do this  and asked whether we would want the CCA 
record to take precedence over the LC record.  With the current weighting 
scheme, the LC record is almost always the base record and was chosen to be so due 
to its assumed correctness and completeness.  But now that most sources send the 
LC record anyway, this might not be so important. 

The group agreed that the CCA record will most often contain valuable information 
relating to electronic access and that this information will conform to our UC 
standard.  It will also be kept current by updates from the CCA.  We recommend 
that it take precedence over the LC record in Melvyl. 
  

D. Call numbers in the CCA/CDL record. 

We've already agreed that the 050, etc. call numbers will not be moved to the CDL 
930 call number field and that the call numbers will not display with the 
holdings.  We also agreed that all call numbers (050, 09x, 086, 0__ etc.)should be 
retained in the MARC record.  If local libraries want them stripped, they can 
strip them in their local catalog. 
  

E. Campus FTP file retention at CDL. 
Doherty announced that the CDL can set up FTP files so that they can be retained 
for at least 3 months. 
  

F. 690 subject headings for CDL directory linking. 
Various concerns have been expressed about putting the the CDL Directory subject 
headings in 690 fields: how to express hierarchy, impact on local systems, 
'behavior' in MELVYL, can they be suppressed in MELVYL display etc.  CDL staff 
have affirmed that subject headings are entered into a 69X field will be indexed 
and will be searchable in MELVYL. Subject headings could probably be suppressed in 
MELWEB if enough info. is given in the field.  If we use a 69x field a 699 field 
with second indicator "7" and a $2 with 'CDL Directory' (with the subject data in 
other fields) would probably be the best way to tag them.  This would not provide 
for the hierarchical aspects of the CDL subject terms, however. 

An alternative approach to take of Melvyl searching isn't important would be to 
enter CDL subject terms in some 9XX field.  CDL/T could define a new 9XX field to 
contain the data in the MELVYL record (where it would not display except in the 
MARC display).  Then the Directory link could be based on this 9XX field.  It 
should also be possible to define the subfields in a way that expresses hierarchy. 

The CCA could export them to CDL as 690s, then the CDL can change them into 9XX 
fields. 690s in 9XX fields can be searched in Melvyl, but are not visible to the 
public.  The group agreed that this would be a good solution not only for the CDL 
material, but also for locally cataloged records for Internet resources which will 
be sent to Melvyl.  Tagging these headings in this way will separate the CDL terms 
from the subject search indexes in most local library systems, which several 
campuses have said is desirable. 
  

G. Genre headings relating to electronic forms (e.g., electronic journal) for the 
CDL Directory 

There was also concern about the proper place to put this type of heading in a 
MARC record. Again, because it is really local data, it could also go into some 
as-yet-to-be-defined 9XX field.  The data could then be carried in the MELVYL 
record for use by the CDL directory. 

The group agreed to put the CDL directory terms in 9XX fields, everything else on 
the list of format information can be moved to fields we've already defined.  It 
was noted that the CDL joint steering committee (JSC) has produced a list of 
desired form/genre terms for searching for specific types of electronic resources. 
If a scheme such as this is adopted they could be put in CCA records in this 9xx 
field. 
  

H. Holdings from multiple 856s 

If it is decided that the data from 856 $3's should be moved to the CDL 934 
(monographs) and 950 (serials) fields, there might be a way to handle complex 
situations when more than one 856 is in the record.  If the CCA looks at a record 
and determines that CDL/T would not be able to construct a meaningful holdings 
field, the CCA could construct one itself and put it in either a 934 or 950 field. 
The processing at CDL/T could be something like this: 

      If the incoming CCA/CDL record contains a 950 (or 934) field, 
      move this data, as is, to the output 950 (or 934.)  If the 
      record doesn't contain a 9XX holding field, construct one 
      from 856(s) as prescribed by TFER2. 

It was agreed that it would be best for the CCA to produce a CDL holdings segment 
explicitly when they feel that automatically moving the first 856$3 in a record 
will not create an adequate holdings segment. There may be some instances in which 
it is too difficult to create a single meaningful holdings segment (such as when 
there are more than two licensed sites providing the content of a resource).  In 
these cases, the CCA might create a general statement such as "For access and 
holdings, see Electronic location in bibliographic record."  It was noted that a 
statement such as this needs to be sufficiently instructive that it informs users 
who view it as a result of A & I linking from a database also. 
  

I. 932 access notes from multiple 856s. 

If it is decided that 856 $z data should be moved to the CDL/T 932s, the same 
treatment could be used as suggested above for holdings data.  In difficult cases, 
the CCA would formulate and output a 932, otherwise, CDL/T would construct the 
field as prescribed. 
  

J. 856 notes for related websites 

We agreed that we would like 856s for related websites (856 42) to be displayed 
separately with a label "Related website." 


3. RECORD DISTRIBUTION 

In her memo of 3/7/99  'UCSD as CCA' (see the 4th paragraph beginning The easiest 
method...) Graham asked whether CDL could handle getting CCA/CDL records 
along with the rest of UCSD's weekly input.  Although it would be technically 
feasible, it is not desirable from the CDL's perspective.  It would make the 
programming to process the records more difficult and non-standard - and it would 
add to the complexity of what will already be a very complex processing stream. 
In addition, because CDL/T makes permanent copies of input files, having the 
records separated might prove to be useful in future - in case there is a need to 
reprocess, etc.  The only elements that would have to be different from 
UCSD's current output would be 1) the 901 field with the library identifier and 
record ID and 2) any 9XX fields the CCA is charged to supply.  The 901 UCSD 
current sends looks like: 

           901 $a UCSDb12345678 $b <<loc> $c - 

CDL would want the one for CDL records to look like: 

           901 $a CDLb12345678 $b <<loc> $c - 

(Note: CDL doesn't currently use the info. in the 901 $b, processing programs 
currently ignore it.) 
  

Doherty will provide a Technical Summary which outlines the processing, tagging 
and display details we have agreed on in the final report. It will consist of two 
sections, a general overview and a technical appendix.  It will cover both Melvyl 
Processing and record distribution. 

[email from R. Doherty re: Examples of Electronic Resources processing in CAT inserted 
below]: 

"Electronic resources holdings displays in the CATalog Database 
During one of our conference calls, there were questions as to 
whether or not summary holdings and other kinds of notes display 
in CAT.  They do, and some examples follow.  In addition, there 
are examples of some alternate CDL electronic resources displays for 
CAT. 
  

I. Current displays showing summary holdings 

Summary holdings (CDL 934 field) and "Post call number notes" CDL 
932 field) are both shown in MELWEB CATalog database holdings displays in 
the "other information" column.  For some current examples see: 

1. The collected works of Samuel Taylor Coleridge.  (Do a local number 
search for 0299956).  Several campuses (UCB, UCD, UCLA, UCSC) have sent 
summary holdings data in their input records and CDL has moved it to 934 
fields and displayed it with other local data. 

2. The Cambridge history of China.  (Local record number search: 
0048428.)  This record shows both 934 and 932 fields displayed as "other 
information". 

The UCLA location 'College'  has: 
            932 -  Reference-Wall Collection 
            934 -  Library has: v.1,3,6-8,10-15 

UCLA location 'Reference' has: 
            932 -  Reference-Reading Room 
            932 -  v.1 being searched 980408slm 
            934 -  Library has: v.1,3,6-8,10-15 
  

II. Display of CCA/CDL electronic resources 

Here is the current short display in CAT for Global Legal Information 
Network. Note that the second 856 came with a second indicator of 2, 
indicating a related resource. 

Global Legal Information Network GLIN/, Law Library of Congress 
[Washington, DC] : Law Library of Congress, [199-]- 

Mode of access:  Internet via World Wide Web 

Related titles: GLIN 

Language: English 

Electronic Location: Location: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/glin/glin.html 
Access note: Connect to the GLIN database 

Electronic Location: Location: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/law/GLINv1/GLIN.html> 
Access note: Connect to Guide to Law On-Line. Click on "Law On-Line" 

[Long Display] 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
UCSD            No call         Search MELVYL CAT or TEN using FIND 
                number          SE & journal title w/ volume no. (circ. status) 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

Here are some versions of how it might look with a CDL location segment 
and other CDL info. added. (Note - the holdings info. I show doesn't 
make sense with this title, but I wanted to show what holdings would 
look like if it occurred.  I couldn't find any CAT records with 856$3's.) 

1. 856 $3 is moved to 934, 856 $z is moved to 932 and both 
display in the 'Other information' area. 

Global Legal Information Network GLIN/, Law Library of Congress 
[Washington, DC] : Law Library of Congress, [199-]- 

Mode of access: Internet via World Wide Web 

Related titles: GLIN 

Language: English 

Electronic locations: 

CDL:  Materials included: 1995- online.  Access note:  Access 
      restricted to UCSD, UCLA.  Location: <<CDL PURL>. 

UCSD: Access note: Connect to the GLIN database. 
      Location: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/glin/glin.html 

Related electronic locations: 

UCSD:  Access note: Connect to Guide to Law On-Line. Click on "Law On-Line" 
       Location: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/law/GLINv1/GLIN.html 

[Long Display] 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
CDL Internet                    1995- online.  Access restricted to UCSD, UCLA.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
UCSD            No call         Search MELVYL CAT or TEN using FIND 
                number          SE & journal title w/ volume no. (circ. status) 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

2. 856 data is not moved to holdings fields.  Standard note displays instead. 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
CDL Internet                    For access and holdings information, see 
                                Electronic Locations. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
UCSD            No call         Search MELVYL CAT or TEN using FIND 
                number          SE & journal title w/ volume no. (circ. status)" 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

[email from R. Doherty re: Examples of Electronic Resources processing in PE inserted below]: 

"Below are some possible holdings displays for a fictional journal. 
After looking at the 856s in a variety of PE records, I think it will 
be very difficult to construct meaningful summary holdings automatically 
from more than one 856 without intervention by the CCA.  The CCA could 
possibly do one of two things: 

1. Construct the 950s and 932 notes when there are multiple 856s 
    (see my Misc. memo from  yesterday). 

2. Edit the 856s so that the $3's and/or $z's make sense when 
    concatenated by CDL/T for output into 950s and/or 932s. 

A standard note could be used in the 'Other Information' area as shown 
in example 4, but the issue of the resulting A&I display remains. 

Journal title.</bold> 
[City] : Publisher, [Date] 
Related titles: <<title> 
Language: English 

Electronic locations: 

CDL:  Materials included: v.48(1996)- available online. 
      Access note:  Access restricted to UCSD, UCSB. 
      Access note: Password required, ask at Service Desk. 
      Location:<CDL PURL> 

CDL:  Materials included: v.1-46(1949-1994) 
available online at: 
      Access note: <<Other access note> 
      Location:<URL> 

UCSB: Access note: <<UCSB access note>. 
      Location: <URL> 

Related Electronic Locations: 
UCSB:  Access note: <<access note> 
       Location: <URL> 

1. Only the data from the first 856 are transferred to the CDL 950 and 
932. 
   Both $z's in that 856 have been moved to 932s. 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
CDL Internet                    v.48(1996)- available online.  Access 
                                restricted to UCSD, UCSB.  Password 
                                required, ask at Service Desk. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
UCSB            No call         Internet 
                number 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

2. Data from both CDL 856s have been moved to CDL local data fields. 
   $3's were concatenated and moved to a 950.  $z's were concatenated 
   and moved to a 932. 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
CDL Internet                    v.48(1996)- available online; v.1-46 available 
                                online at:  Access restricted to UCSD, UCSB; 
                                Password required, ask at service desk; 
                                <<other access note>. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
UCSB            No call         Internet 
                number 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

3. Data from both CDL 856s have been moved to CDL local data fields. 
   The $3 and $z's from the first 856 were concatenated to each other, 
   the $3 and the $z from the second 856 were concatenated, then the 
   results were concatenated and output as a single 950: 
   856(1)$3^^856(1)$z^^856(1)$z^^856(2)$3^^856(2)$z 
  

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

CDL Internet                    v.48(1996)- available online; Access restricted 
                                to UCSD, UCSB; Password required, ask at 
                                Service Desk; v.1-46(1049-1994)available 
                                online at;  <<access note> 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
UCSB            No call         Internet 
                number 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

4. A standard message has been put in the holdings field of the CDL 
   record. 

Library         Call Number     Other Information 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
CDL Internet                    For holdings and access, see Electronic 
                                Locations in the MELVYL PE record. 
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
UCSB            No call         Internet" 
                number 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 

[end of Doherty email] 

A question is whether we want summary holdings to be created from the 856$3 in 
CAT as well as in PE.  This may happen infrequently, but as a general principle it 
is desirable that information presented and displays be consistent between the two 
databases.  Graham stated that this would involve no new programming because it 
is the same display, and the CCA can add a note when necessary to clarify holdings 
for public access. 

The committee proposed that the CCA construct a 934 for holdings and access 
information in CAT database, leave the 932 if there is one in the record, and not 
output it for an access note. 


5. STRATEGY FOR UPDATING RECOMMENDATIONS AND GUIDELINES- TIMELINES AND ASSIGNMENTS 

Doherty is submitting the Technical Summary, Hayman will revise the preliminary 
report, Hixson will create an appendix about CDL linking, Graham will revise 
the guidelines. 

There was further discussion about recommending a pilot test be performed to test 
the record transfer and loading process as an implementation step.  UCSD could 
test creating an FTP file and UCD has volunteered to test receiving and loading 
the records. 


6. COST MODELS 

The last element in our charge is to create cost estimates for centralized 
cataloging and record sharing.  Before the next meeting, French and Hayman will 
speak to Cynthia Clark for guidance on how to approach creating a model. 

Alan volunteered to create a rough outline and sent it out to the group to build 
on. The group agreed that it was important to stress the areas where using the CCA 
makes the process more cost effective. 


7. CDL LINKING AND ADDING CDL VOCABULARY 

Hixson has provided us with a more complete proposal for linking MARC records 
with the CDL Directory in email communications.  The group agreed to recommend 
that the CDL develop a program to implement this linking and that our recommendation 
be at a general level.  The report will outline what needs the program would have 
to meet.  Hixson will send the group a write up and data map about this topic, and 
it will be included in the report as an appendix. 

 The next meeting will be on Friday, March 19 from 9-11 a.m. Tentative agenda 
items are: 
 - Discuss comments received (led by CG) 
 - Further discuss a cost model for the report to SOPAG 
 - Closure on outstanding topics

 
 

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